Jacks
"Responses"
To The Little Tests

Revised 9/28/97

After a little constructive criticism from one of my responders I have taken the E-Mail address's of the responders out of these messages!  If you respond to this site and you want your return E-Mail address included, please let me know!  JS

Subj: netscape wont release player?
Date: 97-09-23
From: freda
Reply-to: freda
To: ajsblue@aol.com

I am using windows 95.   I recently changed servers (neither servers are/were AOL)  I had been using cresendo for months on my old server without problems.   Now that all is up and running again I find that the cresendo will load up and play just fine - however when moving on to a different page the crecendo logo and the music from my page remains up on the next page I go to.  What am I doing/not doing that is causing this problem.  The only way to make the thing go away is to shut down Netscape and begin again.
freda

Freda,
Thanks for responding.  Sounds like you have a similiar problem to what I have with MIE.  Post your question to the Crescendo Newsgroup and be sure to put in the full URL of your page so others can take a look at it.  I'll also post your response to my Responses which is now in my index.  I also put info in there about what I'm using.  Thanks Again.
Lets get them all stirred up!
Jack

Subj: crescendo tests
Date: 97-09-23
From: Kathy
To: Ajsblue

Test 5 worked with Netscape 3.01gold,  MSIE 3.02,  Netscape Communicator and AOL with no 'locking' problems.  Perhaps I'm not getting the waol error since I'm using AOL version for Win95?  I'm using a variation of this script on my main web page:   I turned off the legends and allowed the script to try and play the midi if the user didn't have Crescendo installed.  The midi will not play on MSIE 3.02 if Crescendo isn't installed.  I haven't tested a 'if no Crescendo' script using Netscape yet.  All my other pages have old scripts.   I haven't changed over because I'm looking for the perfect script.  If it isn't hard enough trying to get our pages to 'look' right in different browsers,  we also have to struggle getting them to 'sound' right ;-)  Good luck with your tests.  I'd be curious to know which version of AOL you're using and if that's why you get waol crash.
Kathy
maegwin123

Addendum to email sent from my AOL address:  Forgot to mention that I was having erratic crashes when using my auto-detatch as well.  I finally turned it off and that fixed the problem.

Kathy,
Thanks for responding.  I'll check you out.  I'll also post your response to my Responses which is now in my index.  I also put info in there about what I'm using.
Lets get them all stirred up!  Thanks for for the addendum.  I'll ALSO add it to my Responses.
Jack

Subj: Test
Date: 97-09-23
From:  Sue Owens
To: ajsblue@aol.com

Completed the test,  basically,  worked as you predicted on all the sites.   I used MSIE 3.02.

Would you take a look at one of my pages and see if you can determine why it runs on one server,  but won't run on another server?  I have a Texas Jukebox.   Had it up and running since January.  Everything was fine and then my provider changed to unix servers.  The Jukebox quit working in Netscape on my site, but worked with IE.   A friend uploaded the file to his site in Canada and I link to the Netscape Version on his site now and it works.  Same file,  different server,  now the jukebox works.

I am only using the free download version of crescendo for IE and Netscape.

Thanks for any input you may have.  Of course,  Netscape says it is a crescendo problem and crescendo won't do technical support unless I purchase.  I don't want to purchase, unless it will work with my jukebox.

Thanks,
SUE OWENS
Sue's World        http://www.jas.net/~sueowens/tex.htm

Sue,
Thanks for responding.  I'm not a expert but I'll check you out.   I'll also post your response to my Responses which is now in my index.  I also put info in there about what I'm using.  Thanks Again.  Lets get them all stirred up!
Jack


Date: 97-09-24
From:  Sue Owens
To: Ajsblue@aol.com

Not only did your suggestion work on my problem, but a friend on the same server now has been able to make her detached jukebox and her powwow paging link work in Netscape. Adding the file to the server fixed all of our known problems with Netscape/Crescendo.
Thanks again,
SUE OWENS
Sue's World
http://www.jas.net/~sueowens/tex.htm


BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WHEN I CLICKED ON SUE'S SITE FROM AOL USING MIE BUILT IN BROWSER-I CRASHED!

Sue,
Glad it worked.  Wish I could get my problem figured out!!
Keep posting to the Crescendo Newsgroup.
Jack

From rjdriver 9/24/97

Jack,
I haven't had the crashing problems you  had, and I hope no one viewing my site has had them, but I thought I would tell you my solution to the Crescendo problems I did have. After hassling with the different graphic presentation of the control consoles in each browser, and non working  volume sliders in NN,  I became very disgusted with Crescendo, and the more I thought about it, the more I soured on the whole idea of  plug-ins.      Imagine you were building a stereo system, and you went out and bought a receiver.  Then when you got it home you realized that you had top go back out and shop for a volume control for that receiver to make it work  right.  But not just any volume control would do. You had to be careful to get the one that was compatible with ( or would work with ) the most number of CDs, tapes, and radio stations.  Ridiculous, = right?  Well, it may be a strange analogy, but that's how I see  what Microsoft and Netscape have given us.      If you are going to build a site devoted  to music where your viewers might want to sample several midis, then  perhaps the fast forward, rewind, pause, etc. buttons of the Crescendo console would be worthwhile.  All I needed was a way for people viewing my site to turn off the background music if they didn't happen  to care for my song selection.  Play and Stop buttons would suffice.      I was just learning frames and converting my main pages to use them when I saw a site that had a way to turn off the background music.  I looked at his source, and fell in love with the idea.  Check out my Online Gaming page to see how it works:   http://members.aol.com/rjdrivers/gamesite.htm   It requires frames,  but it's ingeniously simple.  No plug-ins required, and it works with all the browsers.
Regards,
Bob Christopher

Bob,
Thanks for responding.
 I had previously bookmarked your site and had looked at it.  Today I downloaded the whole thing using WS_FTP.   I'll try it.
Unfortunately your solution won't completely solve the entire problem for everyone, as you said.
Lets get them all stirred up!  Keep posting to the Crescendo Newsgroup.
Thanks Again,
Jack

Subj: crescendo crashes
Date: 97-09-25 19:54:46 EDT
From: Maegwin
To: JSnead4226
I was just doing a little research on the AOL problem. The 16 bit version of AOL isn't compatible with java applets, so it may not be with script as well. Also, you might copy down the exact error message and take a look at AOL's keyword "gpf". It might give you some clues on how to fix this.

Kathy,

Thanks,  For the tip and keyword.  I'll try it.  I do have the AOL 32 bit Windows 95 version which does include as the built in browser some version of MIE.  This is driving me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I never have a problem with Netscape!,  just MIE and AOL.  My big problem is that I have built over 30 pages for AOL members on a local community project,
using the various codes. Some work, some don't.
Jack

(  I E-MAILED AOL TECH SERVICE - NEVER DID GET A RESPONSE - ANOTHER REASON I AM NO LONGER ON AMERICAN ON LINE !!! )

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